Graham Glen writes: >spasmodically the Frame Relay connections were loosing about 30% of the >packets Stuart the Nice is having a more drastic problem with some kamakazi-brand[0] router which locks up several times a day, leading to a 100% packet loss. His solution is a relay on the power line, triggered by a PC when it can't ping the router for more than 10 minutes. A straight reset doesn't help, you need to do a full 240 reset to get it going again. Peter. [0] From a possibly-UK-originated ad which contains the phrase "It appears the new Kamakazi photocopier doesn't so much copy as kamakazi". The fact that most people know about the kamakazi thing is infinitely useful because you can describe an equipment problem as "It's being caused by the new Kamakazi modem" and they'll understand without having to be told what the actual problem is.